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 Felix HernandezCC Sabathia

Just a few days ago it was announced that Josh Hamilton won the AL MVP award.  I tweeted that the voters got all the winners correct this year but failed in other areas.  The main area of the AL MVP voting they failed was that they had the Cy Young Award winner Felix Hernandez finish below both Rafael Soriano and CC Sabathia

I then saw that one of my favorite baseball writers, and a guy I follow on Twitter, Jason Churchill, tweeted “I love that King Felix, on a 100-loss team, received a 5th place vote for AL MVP.”  I, wanting to point out how the voters did good by giving him a 5th place vote but failed in giving other pitchers more votes, responded by saying “He still finished behind Soriano and Sabathia…”  I actually thought he might agree with me.  Not so much.  A fun conversation (at least to me) broke out between the two of us on value of a player.  I, loving a little banter and to hear other sides of a debate, was having fun with this, Churchill seemed to be a bit annoyed by me, though.  Here is the rest of our conversation:

Churchill:  “And he should have, at least CC. It’s VALUE to a team winning. His team didn’t win

Me:  “I respectfully disagree. That’s saying King Felix would’ve been less valuable on the Yanks than CC would’ve been on the M’s.”

Churchill:  Not true at all. It’s saying he was less value in 2010 because he wasn’t doing it on a winning team. Read the guidelines.

Me:  What guidelines say has to be a winning team? “actual value of a player to his team that is, strength of offense & defense”

Churchill:  It states “to a team’s success.” When your team didn’t have any… well, you do the math.

Churchill:  and how valuable is a great performance for a terrible team versus similar performances for a very good team?

Me:  Just as valuable. You’re adding variables that don’t go in the equation. It doesn’t take away the value that player brings.

Churchill:  Sorry, you’re just wrong.

Me:  If player-X pitches a shutout for the M’s it’s just as valuable as pitching one for the Yanks. Value is in player not team.

Churchill:  No, it’s not. As wrong as it gets.

Me:  Right… because the award is MostValuablePlayerOnWinningTeam and not MostValuablePlayer.

Churchill:  No, because it’s more valuable to play well on a winning team. Object is to win, and for players to contribute to winning.

Me:  And Felix having more than a half-run better ERA, xFIP, and FIP than CC is less contributal to helping the team win how?

Seeing as how I was “as wrong as it gets”, our conversation ended with my final tweet.  I was then prompted to re-read the HOF guidelines and here they are:

“The rules of the voting remain the same as they were written on the first ballot in 1931: (1) actual value of a player to his team, that is, strength of offense and defense; (2) number of games played; (3) general character, disposition, loyalty and effort; (4) former winners are eligible; and (5) members of the committee may vote for more than one member of a team.”

It seems pretty simple to me.  Value of performance, games, and character.  Our argument leaned, not on the value of performance, but whether a player’s value varies depending on the team he plays for.  To me, value is soley in the player and what he can mostly control, not what his team does around him.  You should be able to take any player and his value and place it on another team and it holds the same value.

Felix Hernandez had an fWAR of 6.2 and rWAR of 6.0.  CC Sabathia has an fWAR of 5.1 and a rWAR of 5.4.  Felix Hernandez has the higher value, no matter where he pitched, wheter it was Seattle or New York.

Felix Hernandez, the player, was more valuable than CC Sabathia, the player, no matter which team he played for.  And that’s as right as it gets.


November 28, 2010 at 10:19 am 2 comments

2010 MLB Predictions


Man, it has been a while since I’ve written.  This is me, coming out of my hybernation and predictiong what will happen in the 2010 baseball season.  Hint:  If you know me personally, I have been touting my World Series winner for this season since the beginning of 2007.

AL East
1. Red Sox (95-67)
2. Rays (94-68) (Wild Card)
3. Yankees (93-69)
4. Orioles (74-88)
5. Blue Jays (70-92)

AL Central
1. Twins (87-75)
2. White Sox (82-80)
3. Indians (78-84)
4. Tigers (78-84)
5. Royals (70-92)

AL West
1. Rangers (84-78)
2. Angels (83-79)
3. Athletics (80-82)
4. Mariners (79-85)

NL East
1. Phillies (91-71)
2. Braves (88-74) (Wild Card)
3. Marlins (78-84)
4. Mets (76-86)
5. Nationals (73-89)

NL Central
1. Cardinals (89-73)
2. Brewers (85-77)
3. Cubs (78-84)
4. Reds (77-85)
5. Pirates (71-91)
6. Astros (71-91)

NL West
1. Rockies (87-75)
2. Dodgers (85-77)
3. Diamondbacks (81-81)
4. Giants (79-83)
5. Padres (74-88)

World Series
Rays over Rockies in 6

World Series MVP
Ben Zobrist

AL: Evan Longoria, Joe Mauer, Nelson Cruz, Ben Zobrist, Dustin Pedroia
NL: Troy Tulowitzki, Chase Utley, Albert Pujols, Prince Fielder, Pablo Sandoval

Cy Young
AL: Felix Hernandez, Justin Verlander, Jon Lester, Brett Anderson, Zack Greinke
NL: Roy Halladay, Tim Lincecum, Adam Wainwright, Ubaldo Jimenez, Dan Haren

Rookie of the Year
AL: Brian Matusz, Scott Sizemore, Wade Davis, Ausitn Jackson, Neftali Feliz
NL: Jason Heyward, Stephen Strasburg, Alcides Escobar, Buster Posey, Aroldis Chapman

April 4, 2010 at 1:30 pm 5 comments

Law and Carroll Rock the Vote

Tim Lincecum

The BBWAA announced the National League Cy Young Award winner today. Tim Lincecum narrowly beat out both Chris Carpenter and Adam Wainright. Lincecum recieved 11 1st place votes, 12 2nd place, and 9 3rd place (100 total points). Carpenter recieved 9 1st place, 14 2nd place, and 7 3rd place (94 total). Wainwright recieved 12 1st place, 5 2nd place, and 15 3rd place (90 total). That makes 94 votes out of a possible 96 total that went to these three pitchers.

Neither of the two newest voters (the snarky Keith Law of ESPN and Will Carroll of Baseball Prospectus) included the Chris Carpenter on their ballots. With Carpenter only finishing 6 points behind Lincecum, there have been some others who are not happy with Law or Carroll for leaving Carpenter off their lists. In place of Carpenter, Law had Javier Vazquez on his ballot (2nd place) and Carroll had Dan Haren on his (3rd).

Even if Carpenter were placed in each of those spots he would have finished in 2nd place, but only 2 points behing Lincecum. And, it’s not like Law’s or Carroll’s picks were unwaranted. Here was my hypothetical ballot from October 6th:

1. Tim Lincecum (SP-SF)
2. Adam Wainwright (SP-STL)
3. Javier Vazquez (SP-ATL)
4. Chris Carpenter (SP-STL)
5. Dan Haren (SP-ARI)

Carpenter would have also been off my ballot of three like Law and Carroll’s. Javier Vazquez went sadly unnoticed by all but Law when all he did was finish 2nd in WAR, 2nd in FIP, 2nd in K/BB, 3rd in K/9, and 4th in BB/9. The reason I believe most voters paid him little to no attention was becuase he had 10 losses, something out of his control.

All-in-all, this was a very good year for the voters. They presented the award to the most deserving pitcher and we finally get some controversy over something that does not include homers voting for their own pitchers that have no business placing a valid ballot. Good job Law and Carroll!

November 19, 2009 at 8:52 pm Leave a comment

My 2009 MLB Awards

Joe Mauer
(AP Photo/Tom Olmscheid)

Below are my selections for the 2009 awards in Major League Baseball. I added stats my winners to clarify why I chose them and I also included some stats on some players that may make you scratch your head. Agree or disagree, these are my awards:


1. Albert Pujols (1B-STL) – 1st in HR, XBH, WAR, OBP, SLG, OPS, and wOBA.
2. Chase Utley (2B-PHI)
3. Hanley Ramirez (SS-FLA)
4. Prince Fielder (1B-MIL)
5. Troy Tulowitzki (SS-COL)
6. Ryan Zimmerman (3B-WAS)
7. Matt Kemp (OF-LAD)
8. Adrian Gonzalez (1B-SD)
9. Derek Lee (1B-CHC)
10. Ryan Braun (OF-MIL)


1. Joe Mauer (C-MIN) – 2nd in WAR, AVG, OBP, SLG, OPS, and plays toughest position in the game.
2. Ben Zobrist (2B-TB) – 1st in WAR, 4th in OBP, OPS, 2nd in fielding value.
3. Miguel Cabrera (1B-DET)
4. Zack Greinke (SP-KC)
5. Derek Jeter (SS-NYY)
6. Mark Teixeira (1B-NYY)
7. Evan Longoria (3B-TB)
8. Kevin Youkilis (1B-BOS)
9. Chone Figgins (3B-LAA)
10. Adam Lind (OF-TOR)

NL Cy Young

1. Tim Lincecum (SP-SF) – 1st in WAR, FIP, SO, and K/9, tied for 1st in CG and SHO, 2nd in ERA, 3rd in IP
2. Adam Wainwright (SP-STL)
3. Javier Vazquez (SP-ATL) – 2nd in WAR, FIP, and K/BB, 3rd in K/9, 4th in BB/9
4. Chris Carpenter (SP-STL)
5. Dan Haren (SP-ARI)
6. Matt Cain (SP-SF)
7. Jonathan Broxton (RP-LAD) – 76 IP, 114/29 K/BB, 1.97 FIP, 2.61 ERA, .165/.247/.232 against, 0.96 WHIP, 1st in WAR among relievers.
8. Jair Jurrjens (SP-ATL)
9. Josh Johnson (SP-FLA)
10. Ubaldo Jimenez (SP-COL)

AL Cy Young

1. Zack Greinke (SP-KC) – 1st in WAR, ERA, FIP, WHIP, OBP, 2nd in K, CG, SHO, and K/BB.
2. Roy Halladay (SP-TOR) – 1st in K/BB, CG, SHO, BB/9, and P/IP, 2nd in IP and OBP, 3rd in WAR, ERA, and FIP.
3. Felix Hernandez (SP-SEA) – 1st in BAA and SLG, 2nd in ERA, 3rd in IP, WHIP, 4th in FIP and WAR.
4. Justin Verlander (SP-DET)
5. Jon Lester (SP-BOS)
6. C.C. Sabathia (SP-NYY)
7. Josh Beckett (SP-BOS)
8. Jered Weaver (SP-LAA)
9. Edwin Jackson (SP-DET)
10. Mariano Rivera (RP-NYY)

NL Rookie Of the Year

1. Andrew McCutchen (OF-PIT) – 1st in WAR (among rookies) and just read this for more on him.
2. Chris Coghlan (OF-FLA)
3. Tommy Hanson (SP-ATL)
4. J.A. Happ (SP-PHI)
5. Garrett Jones (OF-PIT)
6. Randy Wells (SP-CHC)
7. Casey McGehee (3B-MIL)

AL Rookie Of the Year

1. Brett Anderson (SP-OAK) – 1st in WAR among all AL rookies, 175 IP, 3.69 FIP (8th in the AL), 150/45 K/BB.
2. Elvis Andrus (SS-TEX)
3. Andrew Bailey (RP-OAK)
4. Jeff Niemann (SP-TB)
5. Rick Porcello (SP-DET)
6. Nolan Reimold (OF-BAL)
7. Gordon Beckham (3B-CHW)

NL Manager Of the Year

1. Jim Tracy (COL)
2. Tony LaRussa (STL)
3. Fredi Gonzalez (FLA)

AL Manager Of the Year

1. Mike Scioscia (LAA)
2. Ron Washington (TEX)
3. Ron Gardenhire (MIN)

October 6, 2009 at 8:31 pm 5 comments

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