Another Head Scratching Move by Dayton Moore

November 19, 2008 at 10:48 am 11 comments


Boston has reportedly agreed to send CF Coco Crisp to the Kansas City Royals for right handed reliever Ramon Ramirez. I love this deal for the Red Sox and don’t understand what Dayton Moore is doing to this Royals club.

The Red Sox not only free up their outfield logjam but they save a significant amount of money in this deal while acquiring a good reliever that is not yet arbitration eligible. According to MLBtraderumors Crisp will earn $5.75MM in ’09 and has an $8MM club option with a $500K buyout for ’10.

Ramon Ramirez posted a 2.64 ERA in 71.2 relief innings while striking out 70 and walking 31. He also only gave up 57 hits and 2 homers while collecting 21 holds. He is a very serviceable reliever and should provide good depth to an already good Boston bullpen. According to the great Peter Gammons Ramirez has posted a 2.15 ERA in 105 innings outside of Coors Field (he pitched for the Rockies in 2006 and ’07). He throws 93-95 mph with what the Red Sox believe is a power split and held right-handed batters to a .153 batting average and .455 OPS.

The Royals get a firecraker in Crisp. A guy, and this is only my opinion, seems to care more about himself than the team. That aside, he is a fantastic defensive outfielder and a great baserunner but he has little power and has struggled with groin problems recently. He will also struggle to post OBP over .333 which is near replacement level.

This deal doesn’t make sense to me because the Royals are looking to trade David DeJesus who is a much better player than Crisp. They are also taking offers on Mark Teahen.

Adding Crisp for a minimum of $6.25M makes little sense to me especially with the recent move by Moore to trade another middle reliever for a low OBP firstbaseman. Moore now has to replace two relief arms and they still need guys who can get on base at a good clip. Baring a miraculous surge by Crisp this goes down as a losing trade for Moore.

-Jonathan C. Mitchell

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11 Comments Add your own

  • 1. Danno  |  November 19, 2008 at 11:33 am

    Jonathan, I think we have to wait and see what KC is up to. As far as trade value, I don’t think it’s a bad deal. If I were a Royals fan, I’d rather see some movement than to be a fan of the Pirates, who stand pat and do nothing to improve the team. I would think that the Royals will try, but won’t land any big free agents, so they have to look at alternatives, that being the trade market. I think it will be easier for them to sign middle relievers than any position players. Just my take on it.
    Good job as always!

  • 2. Charlie Nehl  |  November 20, 2008 at 8:20 am

    There has been the Cubs have interested in either DeJesus or Teahen as a left handed bat in their lineup.

  • 3. Jonathan C. Mitchell  |  November 20, 2008 at 9:35 am

    Danno – I think it is easier to find an outfielder than a reliever. They can sign Baldelli, Juan Rivera, or many other names for less than Crisp. Relievers with Ramirez’s numbers will cost $4M a season.

    Charlie – If I were the Cubs I would try and get DeJesus. He is a good defender and has a good bat and gets on base 36% of the time. If the Royals trade him and not Teahen then they downgraded.

  • 4. Danno  |  November 20, 2008 at 12:25 pm

    I can understand your argument Jonathan, but if you were a free agent outfielder, would you sign with the Royals? I wouldn’t unless winning wasn’t a care for me. I think a guy like Baldelli would command more than $4M. (I’d stay clear of Rivera) I also think it’s easier to find a middle reliever in your ML system than a quality outfielder or first baseman.

  • 5. Jonathan C. Mitchell  |  November 20, 2008 at 12:36 pm

    Good call on the FA wanting to sign with KC. That didn’t even cross my mind.

  • 6. Charlie Nehl  |  November 21, 2008 at 9:24 am

    I’m personally hoping they can nab Raul Ibanez, but with Dempster’s new contract, and possibly adding Peavy, I don’t see them being able to afford him. Unless they can trade Fukudome, and magicially the team will take on his contract.

    With that not likely happening, I’d also prefer DeJesus. Yes, he’s a bit older, but a much better outfielder, and a more consistant hitter (ala hitting in the 2 hole).

  • 7. Jonathan C. Mitchell  |  November 21, 2008 at 10:29 am

    DeJesus is only 29 so he’s still in his prime. Ibanez is awful in the field and belongs at 1B. I also don’t think the Cubs have the pieces to get Peavy especially after trading Ceda.

  • 8. Charlie Nehl  |  November 21, 2008 at 1:42 pm

    Last I read, Peavy will either be a Brave or a Padre. I personally think they’re fine w/o Peavy now. I would just be icing on the cake for the rotation.

  • 9. Jonathan C. Mitchell  |  November 21, 2008 at 1:48 pm

    It would be gravy! Peavy, Harden, Zambrano, Lilly! Ouch!

  • 10. Charlie Nehl  |  November 21, 2008 at 3:49 pm

    Peavy, Harden, Zambrano, Dempster, Lilly.

    That’s $10 million a year fifth starter they’d have.. .that won 17 games last year. I think.


  • 11. Jonathan C. Mitchell  |  November 21, 2008 at 4:11 pm

    I can’t believe I left Dempster off. What a heck of a rotation that would be!


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