Rays do right thing; Crisp puts self before team

June 6, 2008 at 7:41 am 23 comments

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If you didn’t notice the Rays retailiated yesterday for what Crisp did the night before, and they did it the right way and for the team. Crisp on the other hand decided to put his own self and emotions before that of the team.

If you read the article about Crisp from the night before you would understand why the Rays plunked him with a fastball. He deserved it. It’s part of the game. The did it because Crisp went maliciously after one of the Rays in an attempt to get retribution for a personal matter (in which he was way out of line in the first place).

The Rays went about it the right way too. They didn’t go for the head or even for the ribs, they went below the waist and hit him in the hip. The beaning, as unusual as it may sound, was done with class and it was done to send a message to a personal attacker that if you mess with one Ray you mess with all Rays.

Crisp, instead of being a man, acted like a punk teenager and charged the mound. He could’ve been a man and taken his base but he obviously has an issue with humility and selfishness. The Rays took offense to the attack and let Crisp know it.

Navarro slammed him to the ground in an attempt to break up the fight. Jonny Gomes, who is becoming the Rays personal bodyguard, came flying in from the dugout and threw many punches at a cover Crisp. Carl Crawford came sliding in and threw punches as well and then was accused of pulling Crisp’s hair.

“It’s simple,” Gomes said, when asked what he was doing when he got to the mound. “I’m just going out there for my pitcher’s defense.”

“I protected my own players and that’s what we need to do around here,” Shields said. “We’ve been getting stomped around the last 10 years and it isn’t going to happen anymore. I had to let them know early and let them know right away.”

The Rays did everything right in this matter. They retaliated with class, they stuck up for their own, and they never instigated anything.

Crisp showed zero class in the whole process.

“I don’t know if he (Maddon) could hear what I was saying, but basically I was saying I did that on my own, don’t punish anyone else on the team. Don’t get Petey (Dustin Pedroia), don’t get (Julio) Lugo, don’t get AC (Alex Cora) sliding hard at second base. Get me with a pitch. If you want to retaliate with somebody, I’m the man.”

Crisp said this after he had a one way conflict with Jason Bartlett then went forearm and spikes high on Akinori Iwamura, a completely different person than the one he had a problem with. Classy!

Coco Crisp also instigated everything and only looked out for numero uno. He somehow forgot that David Ortiz is out of the lineup and that his team needs him. With the suspension he is going to face that means the Red Sox lose Crisp’s glove in the outfield and they have to replace him and Ortiz now. To make matters worse Jacoby Ellsbury hurt his wrist making a diving catch in center. The only other true centerfielder on the team is Crisp. Now the Sox may have Ortiz, Ellsbury, and Crisp out. Good job looking out for your team Crisp.

Here is the video for your viewing pleasures:

-Jonathan C. Mitchell

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23 Comments Add your own

  • 1. Tom  |  June 6, 2008 at 9:22 am

    I disagree with your characterization of the events within this article, and I also offer that it was Crisp that had the last laugh.

    Big time.

    In your initial treatment of the incident, you mention that Crisp was looking for retribution for a “personal matter”.

    Huh?

    The “personal matter” was the fact that – on the previous incident before Crisp tried to take out Iwamura, when Crisp was sliding into second, the fielder put his whole leg down, which is considered in bad form, one of the so-called “unwritten rules”. Although it happens, it is considered bad manners, and he knew he could have seriously hurt Crisp.

    Yes, had Crisp anticipated it, he should have slid feet first and made sure his cleats had to be surgically removed from the fielder’s thigh, but he was already on ground in a full slide before the leg was dropped in Crisp’s face.

    It wasn’t a “personal matter” – it was a BASEBALL PLAY that could have seriously injured Coco – and did in fact hurt his hand – and it was in bad form. THAT WAS THE WHOLE INSTIGATION FOR THE NEXT PLAY.

    I do agree that Coco was excessive by going after the pitcher. Shields went for his thigh – no head-hunting was involved. Crisp should have just taken his base.

    On the other hand, I think it was a tactical error on Shields part to go after Coco so early in the ballgame, especially when the Rays were already down.

    From a tactical standpoint, Coco had nothing to lose and everything to gain by going after Shields. There’s no question it was intentional. Everyone watching knew – at some point – Shields was going to go after Coco.

    Coco certainly accomplished an important outcome. he looked pretty good afterwards – smiling defiantly that he had accomplished his purpose. Sure, he got thrown out, but he’s a second-string outfielder, and he got the starting pitcher (and one of the Ray’s aces) thrown out in the second inning – and the rest of the game turned into a blowout.

    I do think that – on balance – it was Coco that was MOST in the wrong on this entire series of events, but I’d say Coco achieved his objective. I do think he will end up with a suspension – deservedly so.

    You KNOW that Gomes and possibly Crawford have not heard the last of it for their roles – which may include fines and/or suspensions.

    Gomes saying that he was “protecting” his pitcher by repeated punching a man who was being held to the ground is pure BS – he and Crawford deserve fines and suspensions, which they will ultimately get.

    Just one man’s opinion.

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  • 2. 19  |  June 6, 2008 at 9:56 am

    Way to go MLB on heading this one off before it got bad.

    Penalty predictions:
    Gomes-8 games
    Shields-6 games
    The Trix Bunny-0 games-fine of $12.62
    Manny-0 games-reward of $12.62 worth of lollipops

    Another unimportant sidenote: did Shields go to the Sydney Crosby school of fighting? Not even criticizing the swing and miss, but why throw off the hat yet keep the glove on? I understand keeping the glove handy if the Trix bunny pulls an “Offerman” and doesn’t drop the bat, but the Trix bunny had already shed the bat and numerous articles of clothing. I think the Rays should send Shields to the Lightning training camp come fall.

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  • 3. Jonathan C. Mitchell  |  June 6, 2008 at 10:09 am

    Thanks for the input Tom, I always love hearing it from a different perspective.

    We will just agree to disagree. I have heard former players agree that Bartlett was not in the wrong and his play was clean. Bartlett has always done this.

    Crisp may have helped by getting Shields out early but he hurt with the suspension he is going to serve especially if Ellsbury is out for any extended period of time.

    Good take on the entire process though. You, unlike most people, seemed to have actually watched it happen.

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  • 4. Jonathan C. Mitchell  |  June 6, 2008 at 10:12 am

    Haha! I love it 19! Shields did go all-out. I also wondered why he kept the glove on. How many game you think Crisp will get?

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  • 5. Jonathan C. Mitchell  |  June 6, 2008 at 10:19 am

    Quote of the day from our myspace page about this incident:

    “hell no coco crisp is not wrong sheilds is the wrong one he’s the one he who hit coco in the 1st place and joe madden is a jackass tito is beter than him if i was bud i would banned sheilds and maddan for 10 games and a fine of 25’000 dollars as for crisp 2 game bann and a 10’000 fine for chargeing in the mound.for the record the rays are not a playoff team they suck.
    frunkisssssssssssss redsox nation will not end” – Craig

    Someone is wearing their Red Sox goggles and didn’t see how this all happened. Don’t get me wrong, Craig is a nice guy but come on!

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  • 6. 19  |  June 6, 2008 at 10:22 am

    OK, maybe not zero games, but the way the BoSox get the preferential treatment, I say the Trix bunny gets less than Gomes and Shields. Maybe 3 games for the bunny.

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  • 7. Jonathan C. Mitchell  |  June 6, 2008 at 10:33 am

    I think Crisp will get at least 5. Gomes for 8 is legit and Shields for 5 (1 start) looks legit. I think Crawford gets 1 game as well.

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  • 8. 19  |  June 6, 2008 at 10:38 am

    Yeah, Crawford will get some too, probably more than one game. As a hockey fan, I give Carl the MVP of the fight. Don’t be shocked if Navarro and Maddon get a game too. Of course, Francona will get nothing.

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  • 9. Jonathan C. Mitchell  |  June 6, 2008 at 10:44 am

    I hope Navarro doesn’t get a game. That would be a disgrace. Tito will get nothing like you said. If Navarro gets something then the Sox 3rd base coach should for slamming Shields from behind. That’s an injury waiting to happen.

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  • 10. Orlando Rays  |  June 6, 2008 at 12:49 pm

    I’m not going to say we’re not totally innocent in this. James Shields and Jonny Gomes were wrong to be throwing punches when Coco decided to charge. But the incident as a whole is Coco’s fault.

    And it’s funny how the Red Sox bench ended up divided after that.

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  • 11. Jonathan C. Mitchell  |  June 6, 2008 at 1:05 pm

    I’m glad someone else mentioned the divide in the bench. I think it’s because it was a “Coco Crisp” thing and not a team thing. For the Rays it was a team thing and they stuck together and are possibly closer and stronger for it.

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  • 12. Mark  |  June 6, 2008 at 2:43 pm

    Covelli Crisp was so smug about the whole thing afterward, I wish that Shields would have landed that blow, and then Gomes to come in there to beat his unconscious body.

    The Rays fans certainly won’t forget this by the end of the month, and of course the ultimate revenge is to play better than the Sox on the field, and for Covelli Crisp to start tipping some golden sombreros every night.

    I don’t blame any of the Rays for what they did actually. Some people might say that that’s a bad thing to say, but that’s just me. Covelli Crisp is like that punk kid on the opposing team that would give you hell in Little League because he thought he was the greatest to play the game. I guess that’s why I never was good at baseball, because I wanted to swing at other things than just the ball… haha

    To end my really long post, I must say I’m surprised at how much coverage I’ve seen on this through neutral media who seem to give the Rays the advantage in “who was less wrong” (for lack of a better phrase).

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  • 13. Jonathan C. Mitchell  |  June 6, 2008 at 4:59 pm

    Thanks Mark. I don’t blame any of the Rays at all either. Honestly, I feel sorry for the Red Sox. One man, not a team, started this whole thing. Crisp hurt his team and I’m sure that’s fine with Rays fans. You hit it right on the button with your little league analogy.

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  • 14. Jonathan C. Mitchell  |  June 6, 2008 at 5:09 pm

    Suspensions were handed out:

    Shields – 6 games
    Gomes – 5 games
    Edwin Jackson – 5 games
    Crawford – 4 games
    Iwamura – 3 games

    Crisp – 7 games
    Lester – 5 games
    Sean Casey – 3 games

    Each of the players were also fined undisclosed amounts.

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  • 15. Andy  |  June 6, 2008 at 8:01 pm

    I can’t believe anyone who says that what the Rays did is right. I can see protecting your guy, but come on how many different Rays does it take throwing multiple punches at Crisp, who is have of Shiels size BTW. Gomes, Crawford and Iwamora should have gotten more games than anyone since they had no part in it, and were jsut commiting assualt. But Coco is a dumn punk kid, I’m just glad I’m not Crawford or Gomes cause you know at some point they are going to face a guy like Beckett who will make them pay for the overly aggressive role they played.

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  • 16. Jonathan C. Mitchell  |  June 6, 2008 at 8:03 pm

    Thanks for the input Andy. I don’t think the Red Sox will go after Gomes or Crawford. Lester hit Crawford with a pitch later in the game so that is done. I really don’t think the Sox are totally behind Crisp for this. This was really Crisp vs. Rays not Red Sox vs. Rays.

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  • 17. Aaron Boynton  |  June 7, 2008 at 1:09 am

    Johnny Gomes = dirtbag.

    Cheap shots on Shelley Duncan in spring training. Cheap shots on Coco Crisp. Gomes should have gotten about 9 or 10 games. Loser.

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  • 18. Jonathan C. Mitchell  |  June 7, 2008 at 7:27 am

    I wouldn’t call the shot on Duncan cheap unless you call Duncan’s shot cheap. Gomes got fed up with all the cheap shots on his players. He reminds me of a hockey goon in a way.

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  • 19. John Cloutman  |  June 7, 2008 at 8:33 am

    First thing first, as Sox fan I am willing to admit that Crisp was completely at fault.

    Second, this is not the first time that the Rays and Sox have gotten in to a scuffle. I think it was 99 or 00 when Brian Daubach broke his arm in a bench clearing brawl with the Rays.

    Third thing, there is absolutly no reason for the rest of the team to attack Crisp. This fight should have stayed between Coco and Shields, then the only other person in my mind that is allowed to get involved is the catcher and that is only to break it up when it gets out of control. That is how I think that all MLB brawls should go.

    I also feel that if a coach is going to get involved in one of the scrums then he let go by the organization. That just sets a bad example for the younger players and give a bad reputation to one of the most historic teams in baseball.

    To that Craig guy that posted on the myspace page, people like you are the reason why fans of other teams generally hate Red Sox fans. Honestly I think the Rays will Wild Card contenders this year, so wake up and watch more baseball than what you see on NESN, because this is a whole other world outside of Red Sox Nation!

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  • 20. Jonathan C. Mitchell  |  June 7, 2008 at 2:34 pm

    I think the rest of the team did the right thing. Crisp went after the Rays as a team. He said he wanted Bartlett but said he didn’t care who he went after. Then he went after Shields. He deserved every bit he took.

    The main coach to get involved was the Sox 3rd base coach who took Shields from behind and slammed him on his pitching elbow. Maddon and Tito were fine in how the went about things I think.

    Glad to hear from you John, hope business is going well!

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  • 21. Adam  |  June 8, 2008 at 12:45 am

    As a Red Sox fan, and Coco being my favorite player, I’m a little biased.

    I do think it was stupid to rush the mound, but I think it would be naive to assume that nobody’s emotions ever get the best of them. My problem is that the media that never gives Crisp any credit for his spectacular attitude and defense, is all of a sudden labeling him as some punk based off of this one instance.

    In the end, it makes Gomes look bad, and Lester look plain stupid. But the one thing I couldn’t get past was, the Red Sox were winning, that should have immediately put all chances of retaliation out of the Rays’ heads.

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  • 22. Tag Galvin  |  June 8, 2008 at 7:30 am

    i loved how the catcher for the Rays pinned Coco to the turf. that was awesome!

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  • 23. BILL  |  June 9, 2008 at 1:07 pm

    ITS FUNNY HOW REDSOX NATION KEEP TALKING ABOUT CRISP BEING BEAT DOWN BY GOMES AND CRAWFORD BUT THEY SEEM TO FORGET THAT THERE WAS ANOTHER PILE WHERE THEY WERE DOING THE SAME EXACT THING…..AND I AM NOT BIAST TO EITHER TEAM HECK I LIVE ON THE LEFT COAST AND AM AN ANGEL FAN I THINK THE RAYS WERE IN THE RIGHT AND CRISP WAS IN THE WRONG HE SHOULD HAVE JUST TAKEN HIS BASE AND SAID OK NOW ITS OVER WERE EVEN

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