Tigers land SS Renteria from Braves for two Prospects

October 29, 2007 at 3:49 pm 28 comments

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The Detroit Tigers made a splash in the trade market less than one full day after the Red Sox swept the Rockies. The Tigers landed All-Star shortstop Edgar Renteria for right handed pitcher Jair Jurrjens and outfielder Gorkys Hernandez. This is a great deal for both teams and I’ll tell you why.

The Tigers got a shortstop that hit .332 last year and has hit .303 over the last 6 seasons. The Tigers moved Carlos Guillen over to first base at the end of the season and they were need of a shortstop ever since. I honestly thought they would settle for letting Ramon Santiago or they would sign a Omar Vizquel type to a one or two year deal. Instead they added a very good bat to an already very good lineup. And if you remember back in 1997 Renteria was the one who had the game winning single to help Jim Leyland win the World Series for the Marlins.

Here is what their lineup could look like next year:

1. Edgar Renteria – SS
2. Curtis Granderson – CF/LF
3. Gary Sheffiled – DH
4. Magglio Ordonez – RF
5. Carlos Guillen – 1B
6. Ivan Rodriguez – C
7. Placido Polanco – 2B
8. Brandon Inge – 3B
9. Cameron Maybin – LF/CF

That would give them a lineup that will take pitches, put balls in play, and one that can get double digit steals from almost every spot in the lineup. The Tigers did give up some good, young players but they got a proven All-Star in return. They already have an outfield that is set for a while at CF and LF and Maggs will be in RF for at least two more years. The Tigers are looking like they could be the team to beat in the AL Central already.

The Braves got something in return too. Jair Jurrjens is a guy that can be a decent #4 or #5 with the upside of a #3. He throws his fastball for strikes but struggles with command with his change-up and slider. He is currently only 21 years old so he has a lot of time to develop and he should add to his 160 pound frame. Jurrjens did well in his 7 starts, going 3-1 with a 4.70 ERA and only allowed a .295 OBP and .220 batting AVG. He needs to miss a few more bats to succeed though.

The other player the Braves got was the key to the trade. Gorkys Hernandez is a toolsy 20 year old (just turned 20 in September) CF/LF. He hit .293/.344/.391 with 25 doubles, 5 triples, and 4 homers. He also added 84 runs, 50 RBIs and stole 54 bases in 124 games at Class-A West Michigan. He recognizes pitches pretty well (36/69 BB/K rate over 481 at-bats), especially for a 19 year old in Class-A.

Hernandez also had an impressive first year in 2006 hitting .327/.356/.463 with 41 runs, 20 steals, and 16 extra-base hits in 205 at-bats as an 18 year old.

The Braves are in a good spot with young outfielders now. This all but proves that Andruw Jones won’t be back (not that there was any surprise). They have Hernandez, 21 year old Jordan Schafer (.312/.374/.513 with 15 homers, 49 doubles, 10 triples, 86 runs, 63 RBI, and 23 steals in 565 at-bats), and 2007 first rounder Jayson Heyward (.302/.354/.488 in 43 at-bats).

This trade also allows Yunel Escobar to be the everyday shortstop as 25 year old. The Braves are saving a ton of money by unloading Renteria and letting Andruw Jones walk. They could be players for a big time pitcher in a trade. Look for the Braves to see if Baltimore’s Erik Bedard is available or maybe even get into the Johan Santana talks.

This was a great move by both teams. The Tigers needed this edge to make it in the Central and the Braves are doing what they did in the early 90s and letting the kids play while surrounding them with good veterans.

-Jonathan C. Mitchell

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  • 1. James  |  October 29, 2007 at 4:00 pm

    Dude does anyone remember how bad of a time he had with the red sox a few years back? AL may not be a smart move.

  • 2. Jonathan C. Mitchell  |  October 29, 2007 at 4:28 pm

    I do remember. I don’t think it was because of the AL though, I think it was because of the Red Sox. He couldn’t handle the pressure. Detroit isn’t nearly what Boston is. Plus he’s re-united with the manager that brought him up and taught him a lot.

  • 3. Mitsy  |  October 29, 2007 at 4:41 pm

    At first, I was excited about the trade. I still look forward to seeing Jair Jurrjens and Gorkys Hernandez do with the Braves. I forgot what a horrible time Renteria had with the Red Sox, though. I hope he has a completely different, and much better, experience with the Detroit Tigers. I’ve followed Renteria’s career, was happy when he was with my Atlanta Braves, and wish him similar success with the Tigers.

  • 4. Jonathan C. Mitchell  |  October 29, 2007 at 4:45 pm

    Thanks for commenting Mitsy! I think Renteria will be fine in Detroit. Less stress, a lot of other big names, and a manager he looks up to and knows.

    The Braves have a good amount of young tools to work with now. They will be exciting to watch.

  • 5. Brittney  |  October 29, 2007 at 5:00 pm

    Jonathan,you know I had to respond to this lol

    My favorites are leaving and breaking my heart=/ Renty kicked ass down here in A-Town,and I’m really gonna miss him. What really impressed me this year was the fact that he had less errors (about 20) in this season and last season combined than the 30 in one season with Boston.

    What are the chances of us getting Glavine back? I’d like to see him retire as a Brave,if that’s possible.

  • 6. Jonathan C. Mitchell  |  October 29, 2007 at 5:06 pm

    I knew you would be here!

    I think the Braves are the front runners to land Glavine if the price is right. They have the money and they need a pitcher. It all makes sense to me. Renteria will be missed by Bravo fans but it was a move that needed to be made.

  • 7. Stormy Payne  |  October 29, 2007 at 9:02 pm

    Yeah i think Renteria will be great for the tigers…. personally i thought adding A-rod to the Tigers roster and putting him at SS would be cool but as a tigers fan i like renteria as well.

    This is how the lineup should look like however.
    1.Curtis Granderson
    2.Placido Polanco
    3.Gary Sheffield
    4.Magglio Ordonez… who else? lol
    5.Edgar Renteria
    6.Carlos Guillen
    7.Ivan Rodriguez
    8.Cameron Maybin
    9.Brandon Inge… if he’s still in a tigers uniform next year….
    personally i like Inge, he’s a heckuva feilder but he can’t hit worth squat.. I also don’t think the Nate Robertson will be in a tiger’s uniform all of next year either…
    just thought i’d put some of a true tigers fan insight… ttyl

  • 8. Jonathan C. Mitchell  |  October 29, 2007 at 9:09 pm

    Thanks a lot Stormy! I was hoping you would chime in on this one! I do think the Tigers will be players in the A-Rod sweepstakes. They have a good relationship with Scott Boras (I-Rod, Maggs, Kenny Rogers, Rick Porcello…) and they have money. If they do they can trade Inge or make him a utility guy who plays 3B, RF, and even a 3rd string catcher. Just a thought.

  • 9. Charlie Nehl  |  October 30, 2007 at 11:57 am

    I do like this trade for both teams. It will be very beneficial for the Braves to play Escobar everyday, and I personally think he fits best at SS. They’ll need to spend some money on center fielder, however. As good as their young guys are (including the OF they got in the trade), you can’t put all your eggs in one basket for counting on the young guys to start the next season. Look how bad Brian Anderson did in Chicago for the White Sox. They gave him the starting job, with no backups in mind, and look where it got them (Probably going after Andruw Jones). Same boat as Felix Pie of the cross town Cubs, as he’s STILL not ready yet after two full seasons at triple A.

    Perhaps if the Phillies don’t resign Rowand? He’d play well for the Braves, it’s just they need a little power pat in their lineup to go with Chipper and Franceour.

    I bet Glavine gives the Braves a discount to pitch there 1-2 more seasons and end his career with the Braves.

    Renteria is a no brainer for the Tigers. He’s only going to help that team. Like others say, if they could replace Inge, they’d have a really good hitting team. They just need another one or two 2-3 type starting pitcher, and a healthy Zumaya closing next year, NOT TODD JONES.

  • 10. Brittney  |  October 30, 2007 at 1:46 pm

    Scott Boras can suck my…damn,I don’t have one! haha well if I did,he could suck it…take that,Scott Boras!

  • 11. Jonathan C. Mitchell  |  October 30, 2007 at 2:01 pm

    I’m not much of a Scott Boras fan either but he knows how to get his players the most money and in turn get other players more money. I still wish he would leave the business!

  • 12. Stormy Payne  |  October 30, 2007 at 7:53 pm

    By getting renteria the tigers have said that they’re not going after A-rod because Dave Dombrowski said, and i quote, “We have our infield, we’re happy with our infield, you can just take the idea of going after A-rod and throw that out the window.”
    In the long run though i’m happy that we got renteria, he’s very effective defensively and has a good bat so he’ll end up helping out the tigers infield…

    Also about the hole Brandon Inge thing, put Omar Infante there at 3rd, put Brandon in the minors to get his swing back and bring up Ryan Rayburn and Timo Perez…. theres the backup guys that by the way CAN play the infield….

  • 13. Nick  |  October 31, 2007 at 9:57 am

    Who do the tigers have waiting in the wings if some of their veterans go down?

  • 14. Jonathan C. Mitchell  |  October 31, 2007 at 12:05 pm

    Nick – They really don’t have much at the minor league level. They have a lot of depth at the Major League level though. Marcus Thames can play the OF and 1B/DH, Ryan Rayburn can play 2B, 3B, and OF. Omar Infante can play all positions other than 1B and C. They have young Andrew Miller almost ready, Jordan Tata ready for middle relief, and they could re-sign Todd Jones and put him in middle relief. But you are right, they lack depth at the high minor levels.

  • 15. Jonathan C. Mitchell  |  October 31, 2007 at 12:07 pm

    Stormy – I wouldn’t put Rayburn or Infante in over Inge. Inge hits more homers and plays better defense. He can’t go to the minors either, he’s out of options. Plus, Timo Perez is an OF only. He has no power and hits singles only. Good 5th OF type.

  • 16. Tyler  |  October 31, 2007 at 7:02 pm

    About the whole Renteria’s troubles with Sox; I heard that he also had some back problems that pestered him all year, he just never spoke about openly. Not sure if thats true, but it would make sense; he never looked right when he played with the Sox.

  • 17. Jonathan C. Mitchell  |  October 31, 2007 at 8:51 pm

    Thanks Tyler, you very well could be right! Inside information!

  • 18. Brittney  |  November 1, 2007 at 1:28 pm

    I read an article about Curt Schilling making a list of possible teams he would want to pitch for if he didn’t resign with Boston and Atlanta was on this list. I like him so I wouldn’t mind him coming here,I just don’t think it would be a cheap deal haha what do you think?

  • 19. Jonathan C. Mitchell  |  November 1, 2007 at 3:53 pm

    I think Schilling would be great. He’s a veteran leader that would thrive with the Braves. He would only need a one year deal around $12M or maybe $10M with incentives reaching $12-14M. He has more left in the tank than Glavine and he pitched very well in a hitter’s park and in the AL.

  • 20. Stormy Payne  |  November 1, 2007 at 6:41 pm

    The Tigers suprisingly DO have depth in their Minor League system. It’s just that you don’t hear much about them… also i would take Raburn over Inge, yes he is very good offensively and has more power, but with him only hitting .241, i’d rather take a guy hitting .304 in a season who is also pretty powerful, Take his 2HR 7RBI performance against the WhiteSox last year both were to Center Field…. anyways they do still have pitching in Vasquez and Tata who showed promise and camron maybin…. anyway there u go…

  • 21. Jonathan C. Mitchell  |  November 2, 2007 at 6:12 am

    Stormy – The Tigers have about zero depth above High-A. All their top minor league talent is in the low minors, none of which is Major League ready. Their entire AAA staff is all former Major League guys that are considered AAAA players. Miller isn’t a rookie anymore so he isn’t a prospect. Tata is 26 now so he loses prospect stats but can still be a viable option. Virgil Vasquez is gonna be 26 next season and never really was a top prospect, and lastly Yorman Bazardo has a chance to be a good pitcher. The Tigers are thin in Major League ready prospects.

  • 22. Nick  |  November 2, 2007 at 12:03 pm

    what about the blow they took when zumaya got hurt moving his family in san diego what free agent closers are out there since he was slated to move to the closer spot please tell me there is more hope than todd jones

  • 23. Charlie Nehl  |  November 2, 2007 at 12:08 pm

    Nick, I think the only option is cry in a corner now w/ zumaya out for a good chunk of the season. Jones’ career is on the heavy downward fall. Either they’ll have spend big money on any of the free agents or trade more talent for somebody. I suppose it’s possible Rodney could close the first half.

  • 24. Jonathan C. Mitchell  |  November 2, 2007 at 12:33 pm

    I agree Charlie. I think Rodney will take over closer duties, even if they re-sign Todd Jones. The defense is better with Renteria so even if Jones is in as closer it’s not a bad option on a one-year deal. They can always check the availability of Joe Nathan but I doubt they have enough in return for a Divisonal trade. They may have to look within or make a trade.

  • 25. Stormy Payne  |  November 2, 2007 at 10:36 pm

    They can sign fransisco cordero for a year…. he just came off of a 44 save season…

  • 26. Jonathan C. Mitchell  |  November 3, 2007 at 7:47 am

    They very well could sign him, good call Stormy. But will take more than one year. He’ll be looking for at least 3 years and will get it from someone.

  • 27. Nicole  |  November 6, 2007 at 7:55 pm

    Great move for both teams. Detroit has got a pretty scary lineup there and will give a lot of teams trouble next year.

    Man, I can’t wait for the season to start already!

  • 28. Jonathan C. Mitchell  |  November 6, 2007 at 7:57 pm

    I’m with you Nicole! Bring the 2008 season to us now!


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